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1)   28 Nov 2004 17:22
Deathspawner
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Whew, have I been slack! I'm sorry for not getting a new poll up for the past few weeks. Lots have been happening, and I wasn't able to get a new one up. This weeks poll is brought to us by DeathFlower! As the title suggests, what do you do when you see a noob [New to the game] player?

Do you assist them and help them understand the game better? Give them things they need to succeed? Or do you completely ignore them, and let them figure things out by themselves? We've all encountered noobs, so you must have an answer for the poll! [On the front page :P]

I usually try to help them out, but never materially. I am lucky to afford my own equipment! But I am usually willing to help with my incredibly vast knowledge of the game [Yeah right :|].

Once you have voted, feel free to discuss this here! Please remember, I am *always* looking for GOOD poll suggestions, so please feel free to e-mail me one if you have one!

2)   28 Nov 2004 18:21
majormudd
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Joined: 14 Sep 2004

Well I think for the most part that most of us who started the game with nothing and learning from our mistakes should offer our assistance to the noobs in anyway we can. I f that means Material wise then be it so. I have just read a post about random acts of kindness that I think is relavent to this one in a small way.

http://forums2.warcry.com/read.phtml?f=442&id=558164#558164

We should always help newer and older players. Isn't that really what the game is about?

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3)   28 Nov 2004 18:25
DEMogOrgoN
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<DIV style="DISPLAY: none">Deathspawner</DIV>
[P]wrote:

I usually try to help them out, but never materially.


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Same here. Sometimes I take hours of my playtime to explain to some newbie how things work in this game, but I never give away free stuff. I believe that a good info can sometimes be more valuable than any kind of material help.

 

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4)   28 Nov 2004 18:35
Deathspawner
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Joined: 26 Apr 2003

That.. and the fact that it is too easy to get ripped off. There have been lots of people who were pretending to be new players, in order to get some free cash.

5)   28 Nov 2004 18:49
Techno
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Joined: 25 Nov 2004

I have two letters to say..

PK

6)   28 Nov 2004 18:54
Alexxa
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Joined: 24 Aug 2004

At least a couple of times a week I will make my way to Elven Village and ask if anyone needs any help with quests. Usually, I get asked for help to do the skulls/bones quest in Elven Fortress. I find it to be a fun way to get away from the grind.

It is WAY too easy to be a jerk in this game . . . and it takes much more effort to do something nice for someone. I have met some really interesting people doing this. Also, lots of the people I have helped are no longer low level players, and they remember me and treat me with respect. That is something that is also hard to get in this game . . respect.

7)   28 Nov 2004 19:06
{Kei}
Posts: 985
Joined: 28 Jun 2004

In general I help people, although I haven't seen many players that are new to the game because I have been in the Hunters Village area doing Song of the Hunter Quests .

If someone needs help with something or advice I will gladly give it to them. But items are another thing, I would give them to new players but you never can be sure who is new and who is pretending to be.

Nice Sig Alexxa :D

[Edited by {Kei} at 3:07 PM on 11/28/2004]

8)   28 Nov 2004 19:07
rezz
Posts: 543
Joined: 31 Aug 2004



Techno wrote:I have two letters to say..

PK


Ugh... is there anything worse than being a noob and getting pked by a low-life that can only kill lvl 10- players ? Get a life. Notice PK'ing wasn't in the list, probably because we don't want people like you to vote. If you can't or don't want to help noobs, don't. If you can, sure. Taking time to explain the basics to a noob is very rewarding, and it has a lot more merit than "OMG I killed a n00b!".

I'll take a little more than two letters to respond to you Techno : "Pick on someone your own size"

9)   28 Nov 2004 20:11
Romulux
Posts: 871
Joined: 26 Jul 2004

The first day I played the game...I had no idea what was going on.  I started shooting keltirs with windstrike, then this mage comes up and hits me with their staff.  Then they say "hit me."  Not thinking, I shoot him with windstrike.  Then he shoots me with windstrike for like 300 damage and I die.  I wasn't mad...because I knew I was at no loss before level 5.  Instead,  I thought to myself "Finally, a game with open pvp."  For many people, this would upset them, but it definately encouraged me.

Oh and yeah, I mostly just give them advice, heal them, buff them, or sleep their mobs over and over :P .  Due to the decreasing size of the "newb" population, there is a good chance that the person isn't actually a newb.

10)   28 Nov 2004 20:19
Himmel
Posts: 1095
Joined: 28 Sep 2004

<DIV>I help them as much as i can, adena, items (if i have any that i dont use), class cquests</DIV>

11)   28 Nov 2004 21:33
wing2871x
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Joined: 5 May 2004

give them stuff. as much as 500k before on erica (friend quit on that server gave an alt i made his stuff, ahd no use for it)

12)   28 Nov 2004 22:48
SilverStryfe
Posts: 130
Joined: 30 Sep 2004

I have aided a few newbs along their difficult path.  I usually end up in Elven Village once a month or anytime I end up replacing my pet with the quest because it lost too many levels (Thanks again to the PKers that like to kill my weak little wolves.)  Anyway, I help with advice and often give my deleveled wolves to new players.  If i happen to have some equipment laying around i'll send it their way, but i like to stay poor.  (Not really by choice either.)

 

13)   28 Nov 2004 23:36
Realmweaver
Posts: 408
Joined: 15 Aug 2004

I havent seen many lately, and being a human it is particurally difficult to go back to our young brethren. But I try to give them a hand, sometimes some items, but unfortunatley, I just don't have the money right to give anyone a real boost.

14)   28 Nov 2004 23:39
madstork
Posts: 406
Joined: 28 Nov 2004

I am the current leader of a semi newb clan, so I usually do minor helping, then ask if they wanna join,

If the answer is no: I say well have a nice day!

If the Answer is Yes: I invite them into the fold! Equip them with teh best I can afford at that time, tell them who in tha clan they should talk to about getting further help, and try to get the atleast 1 lvl everytime I am in their area.

 

15)   29 Nov 2004 06:22
Terance
Posts: 1931
Joined: 10 Jul 2004

I went back to TI many times to protect the new players from murders and griefers,

not only was it loads of fun, but i helped a lot of people and made some good friends,

as of late however, the problem has been as scarse as new players to help,

I never expected anything in return, justice was my reward, (and a cool moto)

but my favorate heroic/pvp experience to date:
I escorted a mage and her friend off of the island when it was Crawling with PK's one day, apparntly they had been trying to escape all day but the pk's would rush the docks and kill the boat passengers,
well, in the end, i thought i got them on the boat and all was well, i was about to leave the docks when 5 pk mages showed all came running for the docks in a group,
...i stood my ground, and narowly defeated them all at the head of the docks,
the girl and her friend, along with the other pasengers, all made it to gludin safely,
....well long story short, a month later, someone begins talking to me asking if i remember her, it turned out to be the girl i saved, she was now about 10 levels above me, and she had never forgoten that day on TI, she rewarded me with 100k and proof of blood for my clan to reach level 3, ;-)

just shows, what goes around comes around, sometimes in a good way

she is still a friend, and has helped me out a few times, now i feel like im in her debt, and i just wish there was a way i could pay her back

[Edited by Terance at 2:23 AM on 11/29/2004]

16)   29 Nov 2004 12:16
Cymraegddraig
Posts: 595
Joined: 20 May 2004

Help them as much as i can.

 

I started a dark elf mage recently, gave him the best non grade items and some cash. Was hunting outside of gludio and saw a mage siwith a sword who i kept saving from aggro bears. I gave him advice on his weapon and the armour sets as well as where he should be hunting and what spells are best to learn

 

I also got a short spear drop which i gave to him, telling him to sell his sword, + the spear and upgrade to a mages staff. I also bought him a devototion top as he was only wear the bottoms.

I was quite happy to do all that because i nknow how hard it was when i started my first character. Bloody hard work upgrading weapons and such. I still had a falchion at levle 27

 

Help them all you can i say, that way we encourage more people into the game :)

17)   29 Nov 2004 15:09
wilyecoyote
Posts: 176
Joined: 8 Jul 2004

 

It has been<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>a while since I have seen a true newbie, although some of my clan members act like it sometimes.

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What I will do for a true newbie is give advice, i.e., tell them check the forms like warcry.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>Also I will help them against newbie Pkers (the truly brave (cough*idiots*cough) players in the game).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>I love bringing in my assassin against the newbie Pkers.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>I will give newbie buffs, and sometimes I may give someone adena, but not very often.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>You don't learn the game by someone giving you material stuff, but I will help them find mobs, npcs or whatever they need for their quest.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </SPAN>Sometimes I will escort them if they need be.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>

I try to treat other players the way I would like to be treated.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">          </SPAN>

18)   30 Nov 2004 20:37
ludvik
Posts: 116
Joined: 1 Apr 2004

I use to help them whit everything but not if its a adena problem cuz they totally wont give it back

19)   30 Nov 2004 22:48
BloodStryke
Posts: 546
Joined: 13 Aug 2004

Before quitting my Bladedancer, I would travel back to the starter towns to help protect new players from the PKers.  I would split my time between leveling and going to these towns.  Just about every night, for the last hour or so I would usually go to TI or DEV.  People really appreciate that.

I would also give advice when I could.  I try to stay away from giving money because as it has been said, sometimes you don't know who is truly new.  I do, however, give drops from the lower level mobs that I don't need if I have any at the time.  It is very annoying when people you don't even know come up and ask for money.  I see that quite a bit at these starter towns. 

20)   30 Nov 2004 23:40
Carlson1223
Posts: 309
Joined: 2 May 2004

well i usually will use hate on their mobs and let them attack me, and let them attack it w/o me attacking

but if i happen to have some low lvl gear i'll gladly give it to someone that was kind to me and didnt ask for it

like once i killed a pker, and he dropped wooden gaiters and cat's eye earring so when i was at TI, i gave them to ppl who were nice to me and didnt ask :)

21)   1 Dec 2004 11:42
Aquaria
Posts: 370
Joined: 8 Jan 2004

I always help low lvls ^-^ I don't usually give out free stuff but I do give out warp funds if they are a bit short =) Also buff them and whatever.

And usually if they happen to have a higher lvl char, they will remember you and help you out in the future.

Well thats what happens to me ;P

22)   1 Dec 2004 17:39
Muqali
Posts: 1254
Joined: 24 May 2004

    If I was a buffer I would buff them if I was ever in the area.  If I saw a PKer I would help them kill it.  I wouldn't ever hand out free stuff, and if it were help with a quest I would tell them to use the internet.  Helping newbies out with money doesn't really help them at all, it just makes them want to quit.  He has to understand how hard it is to get money, and how much time it takes to level, otherwise, by the time he is level 25 he will go insane at how slow the game has become, just because he is used to being a rich newb. 

23)   1 Dec 2004 18:20
Viziona
Posts: 180
Joined: 23 Sep 2004

I have given tips about hunting places, quests, weapons, armor, jewlery. in my time as a proud L2 player i have given away 3 Comp bows , 1 Sword Breaker and 5 Bronze sets (most of the bronze sets I have gotten free my self tho :P)

24)   1 Dec 2004 19:23
DEMogOrgoN
Posts: 1876
Joined: 23 May 2004

I killed PKers countless times, to keep the starting areas clean. Once I encountered a PKer that was quitting the game, armed with Str Long Bow and Swordbreaker. I killed him, and he dropped Swordbreaker. So, some newbie promptly jumped in and picked it up. And, to say the truth, I was pretty upset about that, as I considered it to be MY legitimate trophy. Moreover, it would have been my first remarkable drop from a player, and, at the same time, my greatest loot ever (as I never got anything worth more than 100k off from mobs).

Anyway, I let her go with that trophy, proceeded to kill the PKer, and soon I saw him (the PKer) giving away his stuff (including the bow) to some other newbie. So in the end, it looks like I did help a couple of newbs materially, and I myself remained as poor as before. :CYCLOPS:

"Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam" (c) Marcus Porcius Cato
"And therefore, I conclude that Ebay adena buyers must be banned"
-------------------
78+ Stormscreamer (70+ sub)
50+ Abyss Walker
45+ Spellhowler (raid boss farmer)
40+ Bladedancer
40+ Scavenger (screw the BH quest!)
28. Artisan
20+ Warrior
80+ pet cougar
55+ twilight strider
55+ twilight strider (sold)
Gustin server

25)   19 Dec 2004 00:04
dork
Posts: 3
Joined: 18 Dec 2004

there can be only 2 choise:

1. I can give him hints about how to play but dont help him make it easy cause if i do i spoil his pleasure of enjoying the game...

2. I give him something to start and make him get bored of the game easily....:>>>

 

26)   19 Dec 2004 05:54
Seed
Posts: 17
Joined: 25 Aug 2004

I'll usually offer them help in terms of advice, good hunting grounds for their level, encouragement and the such. I once gave away the stuff I was wearing to masquerade as a newb to draw out the PKers to someone who actually thought I was a newb trying to level and offered to help me. (He was level 11 and I told him I was level 6)

Kinda funny how they all used to think I was some uber high level character with great gear...I go on vacation for a little bit and now they all have outlevelled me. :LOL:

They still have respect for the time I took out of levelling to help them, so atleast it makes finding parties easier ^_^

 

27)   19 Dec 2004 10:10
TargetPractice
Posts: 923
Joined: 16 Oct 2004

I'd been playing for about 3 days and was out smacking some wolves around when someone approaches me and asks if I want to buy a broadsword.  I laugh and answer "I'd love to, but I don't have the $$ for it".  She promptly drops the sword and a couple bits of armor on me after finding out that I'm new to the game.

After being ruthlessly PK'd since starting, this act of charity made me reevaluate the game and the L2 community.  Until that point, I wasn't sure if there was any more to it than scammers, PK'ers, and angry 12 yr olds.

Since then, I've gone out of my way to help out whoever asks.  It's usually just a matter of helping someone find a quest monster or a shop in town, but I've also dropped the occasional weapon on (what seems to be) a legitimate new player.  Never anything fancy, but enough of an upgrade to generate some enthusiasm.

28)   19 Dec 2004 10:18
BloodyXT
Posts: 406
Joined: 24 Apr 2004

Greetings

I either don't do anything unless they ask for help, but I do help some people :).
If I see someone getting PK'd that's lower than me, or has low stuff I give them a few k's here, and there.
This doesn't apply to just lowbies, as I usually would just be dropping a few thousand when in a party just to have fun :P

-Bloody

29)   19 Dec 2004 13:56
mightyLuBu
Posts: 134
Joined: 19 Oct 2004



DEMogOrgoN wrote:


<DIV style="DISPLAY: none">Deathspawner</DIV>

[P]wrote:
I usually try to help them out, but never materially.


Same here. Sometimes I take hours of my playtime to explain to some newbie how things work in this game, but I never give away free stuff. I believe that a good info can sometimes be more valuable than any kind of material help.

 

well i help alot of newbs hafe my famliy plays and thay need help


 
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