Here we go again:

I played L2 since beta and I had a blast. Everything was fun and we where happy hunting in Elven Forest. But then I realised things.

For Example: Why do many people wear top gear? Nobody could afford them at that time. I was one of the highest level Silver Ranger on Lionna. But I couldnt afford those stuff. It came to me that people bought money off the internet.

Then the second thing came to me: What shall I do. Everything I do is, lvl, lvl, lvl, xp, xp, xp. Where are the good and fun quests? There are none I realised...

Then I quit the game when EQ2 came, and woahhh!!! So many quests and the world is amazing! But no PvP!!!??? I quit EQ VERY fast after realising that there was no PvP at all

Over to WoW. Woot!!! Both PvP and lots of quests!!! But then there was very few experienced players, most players are -18 and shouts things like: [Put name here] is fucking Ninja!!! And lol and allt hat stuff.

So now what? Im waiting for Lineage 3 and meanwhile we all in the former guild plays WoW. I expect L3 to have at least 3000% more quests. And I expect them to be fun. I also expect more kinds of armors and weapons so not all look the same. I also expect weapons to be useful when you find them (top no grade dagger drops of lvl20-25 mobs, should be 15-20 mobs). And I also want to see more solo characters. Also summoners should not be punished (crystals for summons?) and I expect that all can craft and specialise in for example Alchemy, blacksmithing and so on. All this and what L2 has now, the open PvP and so on.

If L3 gets all the goodies from WoW and EQ2 (Two sides of PvP, mentorship, crafting, mounts that doesnt take 11 years to aquire and better pets) and in the good spirit of L2. Then we have the MMORPG of the century!!!

Hope to see you all in Lineage 3, til then: Salut!

/DonEpziz Clan Leader of The Devotion Of Nature

L1 is still alive and if U R clever U can make tons of money in L2 without Ebaying^^

I didnt speak of how it's hard or easy to make money. Im talking about game mechanics over all. And that most games get's screwed economics.

So what your saying is L2 should steal all the stuff in WoW and EQ2, get sued and go out of business? You cant take other peoples ideas....

Sure you can, WoW stole all its ideas from EQ1. Ripping people off leads to a lot of the most successful games. I mean look at the FPS genre, there's been almost nothing original about it since the early 90's except for a couple of rare titles.

I hope L3 will have more quests and less repetitive PvE but I really hope that's all they take from WoW or EQ2, both of those games are weak as hell, I especially hope L3 keeps FFA PvP and doesn't go to a realm model (lame).

You guys are going to be disapointed, L3 will be alot like L2 and I for one hope so. Its made for Koreans, by Koreans, and everything you want is what NA players want. Thats why not as many in NA play. I for one like that it takes forever to grind the levels and its CHALLENGING to make money(not everyone ebays, its not suppose to be easy, stick to WoW, and get your drops and xp and quests.

I don't have a problem that it's hard, I just wish it was less repetitive.

OK, I've killed my thousandth Golem this level, great. In five levels I'll get to kill a golem that looks exactly the same with a different name. Great.

L2 is a great game, the best MMO on the market right now IMO, but no doubt there's ways it could improve.

WoW is very popular in Asia, so it is possible to break the mold.

Skullbreaker:
I especially hope L3 keeps FFA PvP and doesn't go to a realm model (lame).

You mean carebear server types? FFA PVP is the way to go.

"That @#$%ER STOLE MY DROP! *kill kill kill* I feel better now"

can you stay in one place at a certain level to grind, yes, at 7x, I have like 4 different locations to hunt, that all have different mobs, and most drop quest items that I can sell for good adena(eg TOI BP's) and I hope this convo doesnt turn into the "But I have to have 9 peeps to hunt anywhere" I for one and getting sick of seeing games come out that are "group minded", groups and parties are fine and good, but let me grind like I do now without having to have others online to assist me

Dacia:

epzilon:

I also expect weapons to be useful when you find them (top no grade dagger drops of lvl20-25 mobs, should be 15-20 mobs).

Two sides of PvP

First off: Well in the beginning it was impossible to get top gear while you were in it supposedly, so an item dropping higher then the change of grade would be useful. In the beginning it allows for a game where you can wear what you find and level is not an issue to wear new equipment due to the fact that you already have the mastery. It's not until the game gets older that it seems stupid. (Dunno if this post makes sense to people, but it makes sense to me)

As for two sides of PvP... FUCK NO! If there is, I can guarentee I won't play. Not being able to kill certain people pisses me off and is one reason I don't like WoW at all.
When you make all these suggestions you forgot that there are people that do not like those games at all. Might think it's because people haven't tried them... WoW was my first MMO. If L3 ends up like WoW... I doubt I'll be playing.
What makes L2 unique is the open PvP - can kill any one, any time. And the player-made politics. They're constantly changing. Who to kill one month might be different another. Unlike WoW where you kill the same faceless enemies that you don't know.
PvP system of L2 is the best around, if NCSoft changes it, seems it won't sell quite so well...

I agree with Skull - the only problem is how repetetive leveling is.
Maybe if they had some more quests or quests to get xp it'd be aite. But don't make the game flooded with quests, because then you got another game that's primarily PvE with some PvP aspects.
The reason you got so many kids playing WoW: Leveling is easy. In general the L2 community is more mature - I've figured this is because of the fact that it's harder to level up, thereby weeding out many of the less mature players that just come on to talk shit/be stupid. (Though there are a fair few people in L2 who are under 18. So it's not a simple matter of age for people acting like that.)

Well I am with you for a bit. BUT mix the two PvP systems and we have two sides BUT you can kill your own if you like and there we ahave an open PvP with all the dynamics and the thrill of both WoW and L2. That's what I call open PvP.

wtf is the point of sides then?

So one side can OMFGPWNBBQ because they outnumber everyone else by 100:1 ratio. Also the side system would be absolutly BROKEN as dwarves don't have casters so they can get BBQed easily without healers.

Also if it's good vs evil there is no real EVIL side (DE's and Orcs?). So yeah side system? Doesn't happen.

U need a few yers before even heard about L3 ...
L2 is supposed to have 12 chronicles

L3 is being unveiled in 2007, who knows how long til it will be on live servers...

L2 won't have 12 Chronicles, this has been confirmed in the dev Q&A, C5 is the last expansion entitled "Chronicle" which I take to mean the last major update of content, from here on out only small patches for balance etc. will be applied. I could be wrong though.

Someone said EQ2 didn't have pvp (and they didn't) but they do now and there are more griefers on those servers than on L2 servers. (L2 is a more beautiful game, I'm not saying eq2 is all around better)

One thing tho, and we can argue until Aden looks level, as I play EQ2 I get the feeling that the game owner doesn't want me to ebay. In that game I can farm and level and I get all sorts of materials. I place these materials and SBs on a server wide brokerage system that makes all of these materials available to everyone. They sell and sell and the gold piles up. No soul shots, GK fares to drain gold. Everyone crafts a specialty, so money in the market is rightly divided.

EQ2 farming and crafting takes a little time, and you only go broke if you don't take the time. EQ2 people who don't want to do either are the ebayers. Nothing on the scale of L2.
I'm EQ2ing and looking at new MMOs. Any MMO I play in the future, I'll be able to size it up and determine if it's a farmer racket like L2, before I invest much time.

I hope they make an effort to do something about bots in L3. There have been many requests from present and past players in L2 to do something..... all I have seen for the last 2.5 years is more bots and less players. I seem to remember Nsoft boasting 275000 NA players at one time and 3000000 Asian players. (pretty low number compared to WOW)., Now what..... 80,000 NA players. Not sure how many Asian players still around. Now days all I see are parties of 9 going from one mob to the next with 2 mages sitting then standing.
So the question is will L3 be a game or an amusement park controlled by the people that play the game for a living?
However I still like the game. The content is great and I have formed some good friends online. Personally I think L2 will die as soon as L3 hits the market. I assume that is why there will be no more Chronicles.
Kill a bot party a day --- That's all I ask----... More fun than sieges.... Also better drops than the mobs..... Hay that could be a new and better part of this game. Forming parties to do raids on Bots... lol just an idea ha ha ha .

As far as the only having one place to hunt at a certain level, I really disagree. Yes it is boring and repetitive at times but it is still fun the other 90%. The bottom line is this is a social game and you won't enjoy it to its full potential if you can't group every now and then. This is coming from a newer playing, starting out with an Overlord (supposedly the hardest class to level I hear) which is at 48 now. Right now, I can level in southern Enchanted Valley, the back of Cemetery, the higher mobs in Alligator Island, and I think in Sea of Spores (havn't checked in awhile). Thats a lot of mobs to choose from on any given day.