Both either 58 or 75 with top grade weap and armor. Dances and Cubics out. Both just go in use UD and keep smacking each other. Whats the outcome?

Well... If they both go in and use UD... I'd probably say SK since the SK has UD2 and has twice the pdef... the Viper cubic will probably poison as well... and the land rate is higher than Poison Blade dance. They'll probably both sting... It would be close, but I'd probably have to say SK. Maybe I'm biased though.

Im not sure if this is of grave importance but you can't forget fury concentration and fire dances. BD will be a lot faster in everything. But then im biased too :SMILE:

he will just lightning strike and it will be all over

SK debuffs are insane, they counter your BD dances and then with his higher Pdef and better UD..

Well, Bladedancers get Powerbreak and Hex just the same... but I still say SK.

Harrold, you make it sound like Lightning Strike is the end all of PVP for a SK..

It is. There's not a class in the game that can beat an SK if the paralyze effect of LS sticks.

You..will..die.

Even a beefed up destroyer won't have enough hp to survive 2 minutes of damage from an SK.

Unfortunately, paralyze doesn't stick all that often. LS still does nice damage tho :)

I've heard whispers that an SK with a mage sword and BSPS can get an almost 50% paralyse chance on Lightning strike. Also since it now levels up I have heard the chances get about that high by 75 anyway.

If they do what you say and both run up and UD and start hitting... the SK is an almost definate win. Both will be spamming sting as DoT ignores defense and then it's poison blade dance vs poison cubic... with all cubics out there is not really any chance for the BD, he only gets UD1 ( 2500 def ) compared to the SKs UD2 ( 4500 def ) and the extra damage from the duals aint gonna really help.

Both will still be alive at the end of the UD battle, and that is where strategy begins and the true battle ensues.

58+ SK > BD / 75 SK > BD

BD just have way too low pdef

come on what a dum post,everyone knows SK pwns BD cuz they got UD2 and BD cant tank for crap

no whats dumb is bringing a post back a month after i posted it.

Well... it just seems as if he really likes to dig out old threads ^^

lol i just started talkin on forms i used to just read them but now i talk :WINK:

excuse me?

Is a tie possible? I think mages or archers could probably do it, no?

Im a 53 BD and if i was 58 why would i UD and attack a SK when i know hes just gonna UD too and whoop me? If i was in the fight id attack as usual spamming sting and using PBD and when he went UD id back up...put my mystic buffs on and drain and freezing strike em...and then when he tryed to return with his drain/Freezing strike id waltz up...and sting him or slash at him till it was cancelled...after his UD wore off id wail on him and when the time came UD too. Maybe im naive but wouldint that work?

UD2=4500 mdef to mate =O id like to see your drains or freezing strike do anything, and you wouldnt be able to cancel his spells, it all depends on the damage done, and with 4500pdef you wont be doing alot of dmg...GG BD's

Well... allow me to remind you little something... A way to counter Ultimate Defense of SK...

Use bloody STING (bleeding) and POISON BLADE DANCE (unlike Poison Spell this does not need to challenge the target's Mdef to stick, so UD won't protect from PBD poison sticking)...

UD won't help against DoTs, so SK will end up just taking free damage and being able to do nothing to BD that will just run away...
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But still... I think SK will win, just because of having his cubics that allow him to debuff, poison and drain while attacking with a simple attack (while BD needs to waste time and MP to do this)... Of course if LS sticks - game over... AND if Wind Shackle from Cubic sticks - BD is in a deep shit!

[Edited by Ebisu at 5:57 AM on 4/2/2005]

Well, UD2 is actually closer to 3100 Mdef (it's 4500 Pdef) but that's still a tough nut to crack with your figher spells. A SK can Sting you right back, so don't think that's going to mean victory for you. Poison Blade Dance isn't very reliable either... and a SK can counter that with Poison 2 or the Viper Cubic. Their skill sets are very similar, and I believe that the large difference in pdef puts the BD at a disadvantage. Cubic debuffs are also more effective and last longer than manual debuffs (Poltergeist will drop your pdef from around 680 to 530 and lasts way longer than 8 seconds, like Hex and Power Break). If you think about it in the simplest terms, SK's are designed to duke it out, and BD's are not. BD's are supposed to be buffers, little more. Mind you, I'm not saying that it won't be close... just that a SK will most likely win.

Plz let this post die. I fought an SK a level under me and she kiled me. I only got 1/4 of her hp down.

I believe the BD would win this pvp, but remember that if both players use their skills the outcome would be different

This way the SK has a bigger disadvantage dispite his lv2 UD

SK by alot.... a smart SK goes with a mage sword so despit the BD haveing matk increasing buff... they have about the same matk... during Ud of the BD the SK can cast drains not to do damage but to get cubics to land on top of being able to sting just as well as a Bd....  while the SK is UD and the BD supposidly comes into sting the SK can sting back and use his 2 drains to get HP back... the big advantage the SK has is he has life leech  which actully effectivly recovers HP compared to drain energy.

Holy this post is ungodly old....but since its about BD i guess i have to post to defend them.....again.... Anyway a SK may have the cubics and may have the defense but the Sk is really neither a Tank nor a DD but somethin in between making them more of a Kiting tank. A Sk who fights a BD head on is a dead SK trust me.

With Dance of Fury/Warrior/Fire/and COncetration (Conc for getting off drains and freezing) The atk speed of a BD can be up into the 580's and patk as high as even 1200 and with the added Hp of Doom and Con tat....well the SK is doomed from the start if he doesnt kite.

Not to steal the SK's thunder with all cubics out and UD2 and even the Lightning Strike making SK one of the harder classes to chase down and kill.

Ive yet to encounter a SK (Near my lvl) I couldint kill without a little thought. Im sure if the BD was specced wrong though a SK could roll right over top of him easy thogh so its more of a half win half lose type of deal if anything.

shield rocks all your socks :)
bd dont have any chance
http://files.filefront.com/BD_vs_SK/;3948789;;/fileinfo.html

while the server was down i played aPVP private server (cos a friend of a friend owns in)

i pvped  BDand i was a SK (both lvl 75)

btw this server is abit buggy and myviper cubic didnt work

anyway this is the tactic i used .... knowing that a BD buffs only lasts 2 mins i basictly ran around for a a while buying time, the bd used freezing strike + constant drains but i also used the same + life leech to get back my hp and also lightning bolt from time to time hopeing it would land ...

2 mins almost past and i guessed that his buffs were almost wearing away so i charged into him using shield fortress and ect ... and with this defence i was doing more damage then he was. my pulter cubic landed decrease attack speed and the BD was useless .no buffs + lame attack speed ... he was at 1/4 HP HP when i was at 3/4 HP

And then he decided to use UD from thenii also casted UD and he was trying to buff back up

Both our UD'S faded and then it was only a matter of hits untill the BD died .. and i had more then half the HP left