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OmAGoD
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both in bw and dual sls, who would win?

caspar76
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It can go either way, if the BD lands freezing strike, pbd, sting, and start kiting with life drain the BD has a good chance of winning. If the Glad lands a few stuns and starts cranking them specials out the Glad has a very good change of winning. That's just what i ahve seen so far.

hogo
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Joined: 28 May 2005

yup, so that why BW is useless for Bladedancers in PVP:). with Doom and +CON tattoos, Gladi wont be able to land Stun so easily:)

Ricey
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I don't think the BD stands half a chance. They're buffers, not DDs. The Glad has way more HP and more specials that do damage.

bayo
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A glad would slaughter a BD. BD has no offensive skills that can match those of a glad. Plus, BD has the lowest HP of any melee class. BD, is a buffer and party support. BUT, there buffs are awesome and well needed in any high level dungeon.

OmAGoD
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a bladedancers normal attk output is stronger than a glads, wouldnt it be atleast close

hogo
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u can only kite against Gladi cos in close combat u r dead. in order to win u must use PBD, Sting, Hex, Freezing Shakle and kite him to death(with Drain Health or Bow).

Ricey
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[B]OmAGoD wrote:[/b]

a bladedancers normal attk output is stronger than a glads, wouldnt it be atleast close

Since when?

OmAGoD
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attack aura + fire + warrior + fury dances, the normal attk of a BD is superior to a glad's

Himmel
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Once Gladi unloaded his skills the BD will start to wonder where did all his hp go :D

Breath
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Once again....ive said it once..ill say it again BD vs Glad can go either way.Hex lands we win no contest.

Himmel
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Dark elves are so arrogant :ROFL:

You can land Antharas on him and you aint gonna win :D

[Edited by Himmel at 11:39 PM on 6/10/2005]

OmAGoD
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how much does hex reduce their pattk by? lvl 3 hex im referring to

Small
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Hex reduces PDef. power break reduced Patk

in buff match glad has higher damage out put.

might3 > attack aura(and it doesnt stack with might)
Warcry > dance of warrior
Dulist spirt > dance of fury
I will say Crit dance > VS but sicne you trying to kite it wont help much.

bascily glad. uses TSS and tries stun when Bd coems in for sting. and uses ranged attacks while the Bd is trying to kite. sting is not a 100% deal and even when it lands TSS will do more then total damage.
force blaster > drain
force storm > frezing strike

the one chip a BD has is PBD. but if the glad is moveing at good speed(not freezing striked) he can get close and stun/TSS
the onyl time i see glads loose is if they were too cheap to buy jewels.

Breath
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People still believe i got my party mask from antharas :ROFL:

MoonPenguin
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lmao

where are those gludin pictures breath?!

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Breath
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I submitted them they just arent up i dont know why!

MoonPenguin
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boooo

make a thread in sieghart with them.

use photobucket to host them

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GaRRoTT
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Joined: 17 Feb 2005

could anyone post lvl 60~65 glad pic with his stats? thnx

StormTempest
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Joined: 29 Mar 2005

I dont know, it really would be a close fight. Glads do have the close combat skills that blade dancers do not, but blade dancer could fully dance himself up the wall. Fury+Fire+ .... just all of it. Land hex before they meet in contact, the BD will attack faster, and have highest natural strength in the game...but glad has lots of HP/CP and superior close combat skills....jeez I would like to see this fight.

Breath
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Joined: 1 Apr 2005

When i fight a glad i do Fire, Warrior, Fury, Mystic and i usually come out ontop unless hes got doom....then im screwed :SAD:

Himmel
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How do you maintain your mp after all dances?
It's impossible for a high level BD to use all his dances. You will run out of mp before you even know it.

Breath
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Joined: 1 Apr 2005

Why would i need to use all my dances? My mp is WELL in the range to take a glad for the short time the fight lasts? Yur talking about 2 of the hardest and fastest classes in the game tearing at each other with everything theyve got and the only spells im using are hex sting and a well placed PBD. I think someone should try it before you knock it.

Ebisu
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Joined: 19 Feb 2005

ftp://l2world.com/clips/BDvsGla.avi

Enjoy...

P.S. Yeah... Truly BD's are totally useless in close combat... :WINK:

Breath
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Joined: 1 Apr 2005

Lol im glad to see someone who actually believes in the BD. Ive argued till im blue in the face about this issue and all i get is "Crap DD's Crap support" Im glad to see someone actually show some support for a change! Thanks alot :)

Small
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you won agaist a glad dumb enough to wear light armour was he even 46 yet i dont think he used DSS jsut TS. that doesnt prove much except glads dont have skills till 55... and that they should never wear light armour.

Breath
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Joined: 1 Apr 2005

Lol yur so quick to point the faults in the Glads why not take a closer look at the fight and youll see the DE was wingless....that wasint Full plate he was wearing that was a knock off Comp armor or something. And no SS? You seem to be struggling for fualts then pointing out the truth, stop trying to cut something you dont know.

Small
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Joined: 27 Sep 2004

at level the skills a Glad is missing are. as a tyrant with no heavey armour masteries comp > theca... even daggers win if they go find glads dumb enough to wear light armour... at that level the glad is missing several important skills namely TSS... and he only gets 3 levels of cahrgeing... yeah he cahrged more but i assume this is C2 before over charge protection...

deg1
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Joined: 6 Jan 2005

BD would mostlikely win...

UD is a real bitch even the low level one >.<

MoonPenguin
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hmmm....even with UD on, the glad could pull back until it ran out...charge a tss, run in deliver, run back out and get another charged for when it ends.

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Ricey
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Joined: 26 May 2004

UD isn't even nearly as strong as I gave it credit for. I played my friends DA and UD1 isn't really the "OMG IM INVINCIBLE FOR 30 SECONDS" that I thought it was.

Mano
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Joined: 9 May 2005

BOTH character sux.I have been tested the all characters in high reate survar and characters for 2 swords SUX.THe best chars are.
ARCHER-Human or Elf (they are great for PK)
Treasure Hunter (for PvP)
And also for PvP Shillen Knight or Paladin.
Mages sux just if u are buffed u killed them with 1 shot(both of u use the same grade items)

MoonPenguin
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hmm

th are no longer any good whatsoever for pvp.
mages eat most melee classes alive, regardless of grade.
paladins are considered one of the worst classes in pvp.

take this garbage elsewhere or post something that would make me want to even remotely believe what you said.

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Himmel
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Joined: 28 Sep 2004

I believe we're talking here about high level chars.
Gladis become really strong after level 55, when they get triple sonic slash or whatever it's called :P
And it's stupid to wear light armor. Maybe as a Warlord since they hunt mobs of lower level, but Gladiators should always wear heavy armor. Light in PvP is like asking for death.

Gregg
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Joined: 5 Jun 2005

dont even post a forum like that. hands down in c3 the bd will get owned by no belief...i dont understand why people think bd's are such "uber" pvpers . NO ARMOR MASTERIS PAST LVL 36, ur a buffer for god jesus sake, a high lvl prophet in same grade armor would get more pdef then ur ass

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