I've been a sword singer most of my time on Gustin. I'm in love with PvP, seriously, it's really the only reason why I play L2. SwS's are good, but they get annoying for me to level, and so, I decided to go Plains Walker instead. I rolled one because I thought it'd be easier for me to level with, and for some strange reason, I'm kinda attached to elves... it's weird... Well then, Vitrian's clan suffered a big lost (being I was like the only active/high level SwS in the clan, at least for now) but I'll make it up with my PvP skills. (I was pretty good when it came to pvp on my sws :D Murdered those BDs who thought SwS were weak >.>). Now then, my question is, how are PWs when it comes to straight out PvPs? I understand they may not be the best of the three when it comes to dealing hardcore damage, but then again, I WAS a sword singer, so being even the weakest dagger class will be a huge change when it comes to dealing damage. Any thoughts are appreciated.

I've never have a PW, always been Destro or TH, but i've seen PW ruling. Not so low con, so not as easy as AW to stun. Hgh evasion and speed help them to came close to archers easily, and the good M. Def to reach nukers. The high dex make the MM to land more, and the STR influence very little in the dmg of the skill (elves low str).

So for Pvp, waht you want, for me the PW is the best for the role of dagger (killing robe and light amror users) because of its speed, evasion, land of the MM, m def.

For PvE i prefere TH cause he hits harder, harder criticals and the best atk speed.

But well, surely someone who has a PW can tell u lot more things than me

PD: and just a little question about daggers. the best option for PvE es focus, but i was told that crit.dmg. is really good for PvP. that the p atk bonus count in the MM or sth??

I can tell you right now, DEX does not affect the land rate of the skills, at least last time I checked, unless they changed it, but then again, after seeing the skills PWs learn, a lot has changed. I had a TH before and I hated the fact that a lot of skills were useless and PvP was extremely hard. I did love the deadly blow though, and the damage dealing skills, was a lot of fun. PW and AW are getting a boost in CT1 too. PWs will havve higher crit rate, and AW with higher crit damage. P.atk does affect the attack skills from daggers last time I checked.

mm you may be right, u dont know very well. As i told u i play with a destro, and have a low lvl TH. I was told the things i wrote, but they may not be true :S so lets wait someone who knows to tell us

daggers tend to be a lot about luck. if/when your skills land, your enemy is in trouble. on the other hand, if your skills miss your in trouble. also i agree with karnicero that the lower STR of a PW isnt that bad. its a bit like an SR, sure they hit weaker than the other archers but they still do a lot of damage. as long as you land your skills your good to go with the PW.

depending on what you disliked about your sws, a PW might be a good DD choice but it might not be the best class. because you changed from a very good support class to becoming one in a million of DD's running around the server.

DEX hasnt effected dagger land rate since c1/c2 (something like that lol)
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plainwalkers dont have the explosivness of the other daggers, so you gotta play them the same way as any other elven fighter (more deffencivly).
they seem to be getting weaker evry cronicle that goes by, compared to the other daggers.

but they still have a really nice crit rate, witch is nice when you got buffs and critiing evry hit, making light work ov mobs.
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PW can pull trains on evasion better then the other daggers.
(AW doesnt have fake death, TH has a big gap in evasion)
i do allota trains with my WW in ++zubies ^^ LOL - but thats me, most PW stick to the dagger role.
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STR doesnt really effect skills, but crit damage passive does (last time i heard)
so PW has weaker dagger skills.
so they are kinda a suckish damage dealer class tbh, lol.

downsin:
STR doesnt really effect skills, but crit damage passive does (last time i heard)
so PW has weaker dagger skills.
so they are kinda a suckish damage dealer class tbh, lol.

So, with a dagger with SA crit. dmg. a dagger will hit harder with the might mortals?

i believe crit damage SA is added on top of the damage the hit normaly does, instead of increasing the base damage.

crit damage SA can make skills hit allot harder, when you have buffs.

Ah ok. And to get it clear, no stat affect the land rate of the MM??? no Dex nor str? nothing? just skills and luck?

to my knowledge blow landing chance is dependend on your position (better chance from behind) and after that its pure luck.

When you stab you get about 25% chance to land from front, about 50% chance to land from sides, and about 75% to land from behind, unless it's backstab. Learned that awhile back, unless NCSoft changed it. Seems like they changed a lot of things about daggers.

back in the day, PW could land almost evry hit.

deffence and evasion didnt mean much to a dagger. lol

That was like... before or around C1...