I was just curious why there is no House of Abyss Walker?

Yep; I really want information on this class; so how bout you guys do somethin about it, huh? Stop lagging around. Some noobies might be curious; and I for one really want some info!!

I have a lvl 41 abyss walker with a dark screamer with focus +3 and +2 drake set the armor and boots. i play on hinde and been wondering where can i hunt to get lucky and find drake leather gloves and what was the links to a good tat set up just the links or best way to search for those tat questions that have been asked who knows how many times:). cuz i got a +3 dex-4 con tat and am not seeing any difference really in my attacks. thats why looking for links or the info to search out what tats would be a good ballance between pvp and pve since i decided to subb pr and one of the summoner classes so i save money in long run on gear since i can stay with my light armors and weapons for all three. i'd just need to buy a bow for the pr subb.

Yeah absolutley we need a house of Abyss walker! I tried to start one some 6 months ago...but nothing was done. Come on Warcry...make some space for the Abyss Walkers.

In regards to A grade armour....have any Abyss' out there gone Nightmare/Majestic or even Talum light instead of the Dark Crystal? Is the Hp Drain/regen on Nightmare worth it? Is the extra 200 odd MP on Majestic worth it?

So much for house of the Abyss walkers....

Skill Confusion: Does anyone use confusion? I've never bothered to get this skill, should I? Any good for PvE?

Regarding A grade gear for Abyss : (I refuse to let house of AW die!) I went with the mare set. As I am -8 Con I have Sweet F'all Hp so the Vamp Rage effect helps keep me going. The only problem was it soo F'ing Exy.....like 65+ mill for the helmet. But looks good with the Crimson Butterfly mask and the red horns.
I think Majestic set would also be a good choice if your using a Bow as a sub weapon or like to use some of the more MP taxing skills while solo/PvP....Dunno.
Anyway Interlude is up here in Japan as of 12pm today so going to take down T-Rex tonight..... just wanted to add that ^.^

good luck with the T-Rex. also would you recommend Majestic (normally very expansive too) over Nightmare for the improved stun resistance or for some other bonuses?

what armor for b grade should i be looking for i use drake set right now and heard doom is best but i was also thinking avadon set if i can find one on a drop. and zombie i went on test and it took over 20 people i think to take down t rex on the beach and all were 70+ in lvl and i didn't see anyone kill the dino mobs solo there either so good luck better be using a bow and landing stun everytime if your trying t rex solo. and i use confusion it lands sometimes and can help ya hit backstab if timed when they close to ya. speaking of skills rarely used is there hunting areas or anything at all in game where unlock is usefull cuz i believe i wasted sp on a pointless skill, like where are the banks to break into or houses to rob with this skill?

unlock is for the chests that you see placed in the landscape in some places. with some key of thiefs you can upen them without a proper key. but seeing how many keys drop since the last chronicles its not that usefull anymore.

best use for unlock will probably be to open the door to the raid boss in ct nowadays.

I think the best B for Abyss would have to be Doom due to the +3 Dex Or Avadon. B Weapon...Get a Kris Focus (I F'ked up and went Dice dagger Crit Damage)...If your a gambling man try and OE it....anything over +5 and your better off than an A grade (BLO focus 186/107) You see alot of high +'s on Kris' I havent the guts to do it myself. But for example a BLO = 186/107 where as a Kris +9 ATK691,M.ATK 293, +11 ATK726 M.ATK319....

Oh and I didnt mean I was gonna try and take out TRex solo.....I meant our Clan was gonna have a go. We tried got an ass whooping....67people many in their 70s could take the constant attack by the Dino mobs....too much for the healers/buffers....

67 people couldnt kill him? autsch. that sounds more like a raid boss than a normal mob

thanks for the info and yea t rex is a raid boss in disguise i think. isn't the ant queen similar or is it an actual raid? i have no clue hardly go in there.and as for cruma what lvl do i need to be and how big a party to go looking for that core thing i've heard about?

core is a dungeon boss and according to the database he is lvl 50.

Actually what I meant was, even with 67 people we didnt even get close to T-Rex!! Well we got close to him but we didnt get a chance to take him down...the constant hounding from the regular Dino mobs is just insane....They Aggro from Crazy far, They Roam far and wide (REALLY FAR and REALLY WIDE) anyway I wrote more about it on the Interlude thread....

for AW I'll say couple of things based on their race/class specific advantages and disadvantaes.
basics are here:
Advantages ow AW: atk power,atk speed, run speed, critical power, evasion, more magic skills then othe daggers.

disadvantages: low HP, gets easily stunned, low critical rate, no fake death skill.

if you want your AW to become really deadly make sure it's critical rate is high, get gear so your crit rates are over 230, then its noticeable.
make SWS friends..lol

for example choose Focus dagger agains Crit Damage. get all Dex dyes. max +5.
majestic armor would be great since u wont be easily stunned and increase in mp will allow you to use your skills more frequently. also can carry more junk. drawbacks: majestic = ugly.

Best Weapon for Abyss? Angel Slayer (CritDmge) BLO focus? Kris Focus? DrkScrmr Focus? Dark Elven Dagger focus?

The best weapon for an AW is any dagger either with Focus or Might Mortal. Since the last focus weapon is bloody orchid, that would be the obvious choice. Either that or Demon's Sword Might Mortal OE'd. For armor.. yeah majestic is good as Davek says.. But Nightmare is also a very good option since it gives you some VR effect, plus +80 % hold and sleep resistance and also m.def.. Hold is the new enemy since sleep got nerfed badly. Stun is and always will be a DE enemy even with majestic set... As for dyes, and this is pvp wise, just go +4dex -4str / +4con -4 str. +4wit -4int is optional, but some additional casting speed to spam hex is always welcome. That's as far as i know and what my clan mates currently use, and do well in PvP vs many classes.

but as might mortal has been removed from the games weapons containing it are very rare and very expansive. so a normal focus weapon is usually the better choice.

Yeah it was a shame... Might Mortal was from far the best SA for any dagger... too bad they removed it :/

Since Interlude we got that skill escape shakle which instanly releases an abyss from any sleep? hold position so other than the VR effect Nightmare isn't that usefull...and with the advent of herbs HP for solo play isnt a huge problem. But hey, you can never have TOO MUCH Hp...but I wouldnt rush out and deck an Abyss out with nightmare for its +80% hold and sleep resistance.
Anyway here's some interesting stats for an Abyss with various weapons all with roughly the same point attack. Look at the Crit and Mat attack.... makes a Dark Elven Dagger look pretty sweet....

+3 BLO Focus (85-90m)1xAss
P.Atk. 620
M.Atk. 241
P.Def. 145
Critical 210
Atk. Spd. 515

+9 Kris Focus (230m) 1xBss
P.Atk. 620
M.Atk. 283
P.Def. 145
Accuracy 108
Critical 214
Atk. Spd. 515

+14 Dark Screamer Focus (180m?) 2xCss
P.Atk. 618
M.Atk. 314
P.Def. 145
Critical 224
Atk. Spd. 515

+19 Dark Elven Dagger (400m?) 2xDss
P.Atk. 623
M.Atk. 345
Accuracy 108
Critical 233
Atk. Spd. 515

yea i crit real good with my dark screamer +3 with focus and i'm 45 on my aw and lvling an OL also so the grinds slow .

Ok from my experience I can say best setup for AW at max lvl is:
- Maj set (don't go for draconic unless you have Boss jewels)... go for maje cos of stun resist, the rest isn't important
- -Str+Dex, _str+con ... might sound strange but all top lvl daggers do it.. why? cos Str has very little influence on skill hits
- any weapon with Haste SA (like AS if you're rich) or a Kris with Evasion SA would be great... special hits are influenced like 0.5% of the dagger power

For lvl up... tatoos like +str-Con, +dex_con... with Zubei, any dagger with Focus SA you lvl fast and avoid stun by using trick... my opinion best farming armour for Aw is zubei, only reason why you get Maje is for stun resist.

So why is the AW soo good? cos it hits the hardest of all daggers, and you can do a lot of pvp with relativly cheap gear (if you keep zubei) or at least with any weapon you can affoard (preferably Kris+Evasion SA)... however good jewels are needed.

My opinion.. if you have an active clan and you do a lot of party xP.. don't waste money on weapons... a Kris+focus or DS+crit power (if you have sws with you always) is enough.. invest in jewels and majestic... difference between DS and Kris for example is like 3100-3200 with backstab on mob.. lvl 73 AW.

if i am not mistaken, you could grab a bone dagger and still do the same damage using backstab if you were using a kris. those attacks don't take your p.atck into account when calculating damage.

But won't the A grade weapons PvP bonus effect add damage to your blows? If that's the case, an A dagger is always a good boost.

im sure they do

And how is a Bloody Orchid SA Back Blow on a AW? If they're using Focus Death, a 30% boost the critical attack in the back wouldn't be even greater ? :o

Im just asking cause I never seem to see people refer to that SA and that dagger so.. Is it any good?

I've never seen that weapon SA combo either.

But I've seen lots of BO(focus) and SS(Crit.Dmg) I've tried both and I much prefer soul sepator with crit.Damage for both looks and effectiveness on my TH.

I always assume the majority is correct and there is a reason few people choose back blow but maybe nobody has tried it. Also the name sounds pretty gay but I'm insanely homophobic^^

I've never seen that weapon SA combo either.

But I've seen lots of BO(focus) and SS(Crit.Dmg) I've tried both and I much prefer soul sepator with crit.Damage for both looks and effectiveness on my TH.

I always assume the majority is correct and there is a reason few people choose back blow but maybe nobody has tried it. Also the name sounds pretty gay but I'm insanely homophobic^^

Hachimitsu_Boy:
Ok from my experience I can say best setup for AW at max lvl is:
- Maj set (don't go for draconic unless you have Boss jewels)... go for maje cos of stun resist, the rest isn't important
- -Str+Dex, _str+con ... might sound strange but all top lvl daggers do it.. why? cos Str has very little influence on skill hits
- any weapon with Haste SA (like AS if you're rich) or a Kris with Evasion SA would be great... special hits are influenced like 0.5% of the dagger power

For lvl up... tatoos like +str-Con, +dex_con... with Zubei, any dagger with Focus SA you lvl fast and avoid stun by using trick... my opinion best farming armour for Aw is zubei, only reason why you get Maje is for stun resist.

So why is the AW soo good? cos it hits the hardest of all daggers, and you can do a lot of pvp with relativly cheap gear (if you keep zubei) or at least with any weapon you can affoard (preferably Kris+Evasion SA)... however good jewels are needed.

My opinion.. if you have an active clan and you do a lot of party xP.. don't waste money on weapons... a Kris+focus or DS+crit power (if you have sws with you always) is enough.. invest in jewels and majestic... difference between DS and Kris for example is like 3100-3200 with backstab on mob.. lvl 73 AW.

Are you crazy how can you put Maj set on dagger class... the set is good because of the 8% p. atk. when you use a bow ...
Better put Dark crystal ;) And also I think doom is better then Zubei ><

Maj is the pvp setup of choice because of the extra stun protection. neither attack speed nor attak power are worth anything if you get stunned all the time.

Zubei can be a nice setup if you go on a heavily evasion based setup. to a certain point you can become nearly unhitable by anything but skills, so it again can help you out a lot. but overall doom-set will be a better set for more of the time.

most classes don't have stun ^^

HE, SR, PR, Tyrant, Destroyer, WS, BH, WC, OL, Paladin, DA, WL as well as high lvl TK and SK. also i think the dagger skills chance to stun is reduced as well.

so to me it looks like the majority of classes do have a stun skill. and even if not, just being better protected from the ranged stun of the archers seems to be a pretty good bonus to me.

Gurag:
HE, SR, PR, Tyrant, Destroyer, WS, BH, WC, OL, Paladin, DA, WL as well as high lvl TK and SK. also i think the dagger skills chance to stun is reduced as well.

so to me it looks like the majority of classes do have a stun skill. and even if not, just being better protected from the ranged stun of the archers seems to be a pretty good bonus to me.

Half agreed :|